Immigration Attitudes

Illegal Invasion Destroying Small Town America

President Obama’s unilateral action on immigration has no precedent

By Editorial BoardDecember 3 at 7:32 PM

THE WHITE House has defended President Obama’s unilateral decision to legalize the presence of nearly 4 million undocumented immigrants as consistent, even in scope, with the executive actions of previous presidents. In fact, it is increasingly clear that the sweeping magnitude of Mr. Obama’s order is unprecedented.

Central to the administration’s argument is its contention that the 4 million covered by the president’s order — some 36 percent of the estimated undocumented population of 11 million — is in line with the percentage covered by a comparable action by President George H.W. Bush in 1990. At that time, there were about 3.5 million illegal immigrants in the country; Mr. Obama, administration officials and their allies have said that about 1.5 million of them — the spouses and children of previously amnestied immigrants — benefited from Mr. Bush’s move.

…Republicans’ failure to address immigration also does not justify Mr. Obama’s massive unilateral act. Unlike Mr. Bush in 1990, whose much more modest order was in step with legislation recently and subsequently enacted by Congress, Mr. Obama’s move flies in the face of congressional intent — no matter how indefensible that intent looks.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-obamas-unilateral-action-on-immigration-has-no-precedent/2014/12/03/3fd78650-79a3-11e4-9a27-6fdbc612bff8_story.html

Derick285
4:45 AM EDT

Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a thorough procedure
meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than
simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care,
education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.
Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to
detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical
examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but
long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent
newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers.
Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our
immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals,
with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.
Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States,
and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without
exception.
In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America
vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial
devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for
being here.

haigeonos
3:24 AM EDT

As a non-American, I cannot understand why illegal immigration can be such a controversial issue.
In every part of Asia, if you come into any country illegally or without any documentation, you will be deported. An illegal immigrant won’t get any free healthcare or free education, but perhaps free food and free lodging inside the prison before being kicked out.
Here, in Singapore, an illegal can even be caned before being kicked out. And everyone in Asia are very happy and comfortable to continue to punish illegal.
That’s why America is so weird, so broke and so infested with crimes.


www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-establishment-readies-for-war-against-donald-trump/article/2574454

bobarama
5:13 PM EST

I wouldn’t want to live anywhere I wasn’t wanted. Why do they?

AlbaDawn
5:16 PM EST

Because they have figured out how to fleece this country, they are basically having their cake and eating it too, and they do not want to leave the comforts they have acquired, fraudulently.

Angel L. Gonzalez, Sr.
5:06 PM EST

To the liberal left wing progressive communist nut that wrote this article, maybe we should also not pay attention to the ruling from the (5) clowns wearing black robes in the Supreme Court when they changed the definition of marriage!!!

Mama Mare
4:59 PM EST

Why do these illegals think they have a right to tell OUR Government what they want? They clearly do not get we do not want them here and OUR Government is LISTENING TO US!! DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT!!

David Cameron
4:42 PM EST

It angers me that the liberal media insists on using the Obama versión of politically correct language. Very few people are against LEGAL immigration yet you make claims of “immigration advocates” who are actually doing nothing more than trying to break the law by creating loopholes for illegal immigrants.

Ysbeth
4:15 PM EST

The US government is set up to represent US CITIZENS nor foreigners. If you want a government to represent you then go back to your own country and protest your own government.

Barbara Anderson
3:56 PM EST

Why do illegal aliens think they have ANY rights in MY country? They broke our laws to get here……they are not wanted……….they need to go home and fix their own countries

VTBobb
4:21 PM EST

Because the democrats keep promising them freebies, including citizenship.

queasyrider
4:35 PM EST

Freebies? Those are the hardest working folks in our country. Most work multiple jobs to keep families going. Give them a path to legal worker status.

columbiack
4:41 PM EST

That doesn’t give them the right to skip the line.

AlbaDawn
5:22 PM EST

@queasyrider, if you think illegals are the hardest working people in the US, you live in a cave. The illegals I know work for cash, don’t report it so they can qualify for every assistance they can get their hands on, they know how to work this system and get away with it because no one stops them, they, in California, live better than a lot of working class citizens because they monopolize all labor jobs and low income housing as a “network”. They are not victims, they are capitalist! You are naïve!!

bigjimmy
3:54 PM EST

They’re not going to let a court ruling stop them. Heck, the constitution, laws and border patrol can’t stop them so what does the heck does a court ruling mean to these people?


www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/12/immigration-advocates-arent-letting-a-court-ruling-on-deportations-get-in-their-way/

Immigration protest cancelled over ‘death threats from Mexican cartels’

www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/20/immigration-protest-cancelled-over-death-threats-from-mexican-cartels

JangleRockDan 16 minutes ago

It’s time to repeal or alter the 1965 Immigration Act. The newcomers need 40-50 years to assimilate into the host culture and learn English. Post-1965 immigrants differ from the ones of 100 years ago because there is no pressure on them to assimilate. The USA is now a first world welfare state that only enables newer immigrants to stay balkanized. Instead of the new guys doing it on their own, we are now allocating resources and time towards coddling them and their foreign culture.
Had the 1924 Immigration Act never passed, drastically reducing immigration down to 100,000 per year, then the Italian and Polish immigrants would not have assimilated as well as they did by the 1960s. The country shared
More cultural commonalities back then then we do now. The suburbs are turning into balkanized ethnic enclaves with excess businesses only serving one kind of people.
There is no reason to keep importing 1 million immigrants per year at this point when we have American citizens struggling to support their families and jobs disappearing. How does an endless flow of immigration help the citizens?

Too Much Government! 4 hours ago

The move from suburban to urban is only seen because the demographics of NJ’s citizens is changing.
We used to be the “All American” kind of people who flew the American flag and pledged allegiance to that flag.
We were citizens who wanted more space….. to be more independent …. to rely less on government.
Now, because of relentless taxation, we see the middle class moving out as to not be subjected to give all our hard earned money to those who wish to live off the government.
Well, now we see the tide changing.
The new citizens pledge allegiance to the flags of their respective nations, care nothing of “American Values”, and are swarming to the cities for the proximity to as many social services as they can get.
Yes, we are changing…… but this is in No way a change for the better.

tom 6 hours ago

Governor Christie: Act like you run this joke of a state and stop the criminality going on here. Illegals are flooding our state. How much do our taxes go up when thousands of children of illegals go to our schools? How many extra hours a day should we all work to pay for this? I’m sorry, it sounds harsh, but if you can’t follow the legal system to enter the United States, you need to be deported. The situation has reached the boiling point.

lola4432 7 hours ago

People that come here illegally or not (but mostly illegal) do not change how they acted in their previous country. They are leaving these countries due to lack of jobs, poor gross living conditions and come here and treat our country like the crap hole they left. 3rd World Country coming to a backyard near you.

LeoKiely 3 hours ago

Fair point, but I wish to note that the U.S. Imports an estimated 138,000 LEGAL immigrants each month under current federal policy. An estimated 90 percent of these come from third world countries. With regard to the problematic trends discussed in this article, Illegal immigration pales in comparison to legal immigration.

corruptdna 7 hours ago

LOL! I love how the article tries to spin this into a positive. High income earners flee the state, and immigrants who by and large take full advantage of government hand outs and programs are filling their place?

Yup, sounds like a great situation.

1BamaNative20X 6 hours ago @ Archduke F @ corruptdna

You neglected to mention that the “family” consists of 18 people crammed into four bedrooms.

gc0700 9 hours ago

I don’t get it, is the article describing this as a positive thing? So we have more people leaving the state and the ones coming in are immigrants from other countries moving to cheaper urban areas….which totally explains why old my neighborhood, Bayonne is slowly turning into a slum. Was an awesome place to raise kids 30 years ago. My friends and I left the urban areas for the suburbs and don’t see vacant properties (thankfully). That said, I will NOT be retiring in NJ. I’ll take my discretionary income somewhere I’m wanted. Keep catering to the minorities. FYI, I’m a minority before anyone throws out the typical race card.

www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/as_tens_of_thousands_flee_nj_immigrants_are_filling_the_void.html

While the United States wrangles over immigration policy, Brazil has already made up its mind about immigrants. It wants more – as many as 6 million more….“In a globalized world, we need not only the flow of goods and services but also the flow of minds,’’ said Brazil’s Secretary of Strategic Affairs Ricardo Paes de Barros. “We’re not after population; we’re after talent and human capital. By opening society, we can accelerate the development process.”


www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2013/0328/Brazil-In-the-market-for-millions-of-immigrants

NavyMexican
Rank 9581

As a 2nd generation south Texas “Mexican American” I was very interested to here what Obama had to say.

It all seemed to sound good on the teleprompter, but the more I heard the more I seemed to think that parts of his order would just never happen.

For starters, how are you going to tell if someone has actually been here more than five years?

But that’s just a single detail.

For me and my family the biggest issue is BORDER SECURITY. And the issue is incredibly important to families on both sides of the border. OUR (USA) policies have essentially drawn millions of weak and desperate people into the border region. And it has also drawn the cartels and human traffickers, both groups that prey heavily on the migrants. Communities on both sides of the Rio Grande have been destroyed, overrun or taken over by the cartels.

Human Rights Watch estimates that between 40,000 & 50,000 people have died in northern Mexico under the Obama administration’s “leadership.” And then there are the thousands of women who have raped and the hundreds of children sold into sex slavery.

Anyway, point being that Obama sounded good, but at the end of the day his lack of doing much about border security really isn’t going to change a thing. Illegals will still come across. Before that happens many will get raped or murdered. Many will be forced to smuggle drugs across. Northern Mexican towns will still be war zones. Texas towns will be overwhelmed by illegals and the social services they are forced to provide. Just more of the same old

Obama has known what the problems are at the border since before he took office and he’s done nothing substantial to secure the border. He has blood on his hands. And the tears of the little raped children.

www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Obama-aides-Immigration-order-could-shelter-5-5907312.php

William Case Texas 5 hours ago

The federal government may turn a profit from illegal immigration, but states, counties, cities, hospitals and school districts bear almost all the costs associated with illegal immigration. States also tend to collect more in taxes paid by illegal immigrants than states provide in services, but the equation changes drastically when services provided by municipalities, hospitals, and school districts are counted. For example, the Texas Comptroller recently estimates that undocumented immigrants paid more than $513 million in fiscal in local taxes, including city, county and special district sales and property taxes. However, the comptroller also estimated that illegal immigrants cost Texas hospitals $1.3 billion and that local jurisdictions spent $141 million to incarcerate illegal immigrants. Texas school districts also spends about 1.6 billion each year to educate illegal immigrant children and about $2.1 billion to educate the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants. So Texas spends billions more on illegal immigrants than it collects in taxes.
   


www.nytimes.com/2014/11/23/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-immigration-enriches-you-and-m.html

Flood of illegal immigrants pour into NYC public schools

…But parent leaders worry the ­influx will strain school budgets.

“Unless the mayor, governor or president announces that funds will be made available immediately, our already-struggling schools will have to provide more,” said Sam Pirozzolo, vice president of the New York City Parents Union.

“NYC public schools are already failing to meet the needs of the students they have — 70 percent cannot read, write and do math at grade level. How can they handle thousands of new students competing for the same services without things getting worse?”

http://nypost.com/2014/11/23/city-schools-warned-of-plans-to-enroll-2350-migrant-children/

pouran-doukht
1:16 AM EST

If I were a Hispanic, I’d be fuming right about now for being so shamefully exploited by this community narcissist. This self-serving megalomaniac jut poisoned the well and has killed any chance of real reform for my people and my children’s future for decades to come just so he can start wars wars wars wars with American people. Notoly Hispanics but all Americans can now see the petulant spiteful fraud for what and who he is — himself. ONLY HIMSELF. He wears it like a badge of honor. The only honor he knows.

www.washingtonpost.com/local/2014/11/20/e80cf650-70fe-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html

Mr. President, how do these people “get right with the law” when you have to break the law to allegedly get them right with the law?

Ronald Reagan and George Bush used executive orders to tweak immigration law, but it was within the framework of the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli amnesty law that was passed by Congress.

As a student of politics and history, I’ll unfortunately be able to tell my grandchildren that I lived through America’s early 21 century experiment with a lawlessness extremely left-wing president. This man — a self-professed constitutional scholar — is so brazen that he’s openly violating the Constitution he swore to protect. And he’s doing so just a few years after he said he didn’t have the authority to do what he just did on immigration.

Unbelievable!

www.conservativeblog.org/amyridenour/2014/11/21/black-activists-speak-out-against-obama-amnesty-agenda.html

Time to Strengthen Family Immigration

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
Published: March 24, 2013

The momentum in Washington for immigration reform has been growing with amazing speed in recent weeks, and it seems that the question now is not whether Congress will try to fix the immigration system this year, but how big and effective the repairs will be. We hope that whatever bill emerges will continue to protect and unite families, preserving and strengthening a bedrock value of America’s immigration system.

It might be hard to imagine that America’s long tradition of allowing immigrants to sponsor spouses, children and siblings for visas would be threatened. But anti-immigration groups and lawmakers have long attacked the practice, using the slanderous and misleading term “chain migration,” which summons images of a relentless flow of undesirables, usually from south of the border. Even as some of the staunchest resistance to reform is crumbling — legalizing 11 million immigrants was unthinkable for leading Republicans a few months ago, and now even rock-ribbed Tea Partiers like Senator Rand Paul favor it — right-wing resistance to family migration persists.

Bills are still being drafted, but some lawmakers are reportedly trying to reduce or eliminate visas for extended family members in order to expand employment-based immigration. Advocates are resisting this zero-sum game.

These tensions emerged at a recent hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Mazie Hirono, Democrat of Hawaii, who led the hearing, spoke movingly of her own experience immigrating to Honolulu as a young girl, and yet joined other witnesses in explaining how the system falls short: she noted that it treats women unequally — many who arrive as dependent spouses are denied the right to work legally, and face discrimination and severe obstacles to assimilation. And Mee Moua, president of the Asian American Justice Center, explained how backlogs kept families separated for years, if not decades. “As of November 2012,” she said, “nearly 4.3 million close family members were waiting in the family-visa backlogs” — with Latino and Asian-American families most affected.

But even as Ms. Moua explained how important family visas are, Senator Jeff Sessions balked at the very concept. Using an example of two hypothetical Hondurans, he suggested that the visas were bad because some relatives can be underachievers. He ignored the powerful truth that family immigration is an economic bulwark. Families incubate job-creating businesses, provide a safety net for their members and hasten assimilation. Employment visas are important for companies to recruit needed workers. But these workers have spouses and children and siblings.

And we need workers at all levels of the economy: As Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois recently put it, “Silicon Valley engineers and entrepreneurs would not be very productive or competitive engines of our economy if they did not have food to eat, or people to care for their children or parents, or a clean office and clean clothes, or a made bed in their hotel room on a business trip.”

Immigration is more than a business relationship America has with selected foreigners. It’s a process that renews this country; it means going all-in on America, through binding ties of love and blood. Recruited workers enrich the country. Reunited families do, too.

GLC USA
Misguided, again, NYT Editorial Board.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Concerned Citizen Anywheresvill

Does anyone here at the NYT Editorial Board ever read these letter forums? In this most lefty of lefty publications, in a blue state and the bluest city in that state, do you wonder that the same readers and posters — who all, almost to a man, support gay marriage and voted for Obama, who want single payer health care, support the ACA, support abortion rights, hated Romney and Ryan and before them Bush 43 — these SAME LIBERAL READERS, overwhelmingly do NOT support this paper’s position on illegal immigrants?
Does anyone read here? Does anyone process this? This is ONE ISSUE that unites Americans on both sides of the aisle — we do not want illegal immigration. We want illegals to self-deport. We do NOT wish grant amnesty (AGAIN), because last time it quintupled the number of illegal aliens and worsened everything a thousand times over.
We are not bigoted, and welcome legal immigrants of all colors. Nobody is bigoted against very dark skinned immigrants from India, Pakistan, Cambodia, Laos, the Philipines, Brazil or Caribbean. But suddenly if we oppose ILLEGAL immigration from Mexico and Central America, we are “racists who hate those with brown skins”. Totally false!!! Crying “racist!” to shame people who are NOT racists is a form of ugly harassment and bullying.
It is awfully easy in your NYC ivory towers, and living in Manhattan or Park Slope, to sneer down at the rest of us and demand we absorb 20 million illegals, when we don’t have jobs ourselves. SHAME ON YOU.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Pvbeachbum fl

If Family Reunification is included in the “bi-partisan” bill, it should only include spouse and their children….expanding it to parents, aunts, siblings, caregivers, etc.,. will “kill” the “bill” which still has to be presented to the American people so we can have 60 days to respond to our representatives. Then…the “you-know-what” will hit the fan. All the ranting and raving by OFA, LaRaza and pro-illegal immigration advocates might be for naught, as we, the people, only care about the economy, jobs for those who have been layed, off, jobs for our kids, and a decent standard of living for our families. Illegal immigrants do not fit into our landscape at this time. Sorry, Dreamers, and others. You’re old enough to know where the line begins….at the end.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m

Alan Livermore, CA

Family preferences for LEGAL immigrants, no problem. For ILLEGAL immigrants, no way! We should not be rewarding people who break the law and come here illegally. Children of illegal immigrants barely know their relatives in their native land anyway (if at all) so bringing them to this country serves no purpose.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Marjorie Bosco Fanwood N.J,U.S.A

What families?….many of these immigrants are not family oriented as intended in the concept of a Pater Famila, that is a Father responsible for his family in front of the State, but “Tribally’ that is extended families with several partners consequently with family trees the size of the estuary of the Amazon river….The Tribe is more prevalent that the Family….with divorce in our country at this level,we are tribalizing ourselves
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Another View NY

Where is the “balance” regarding this issue?
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Dee Western New York

Policies and politics aside, do the Republicans have any idea that they come across as just plain MEAN?
It seams that their every statement is tinged with suspicion and resentment.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m

RC Pompano Beach FL

The NYT doesn’t even attempt to hide its blatant bias in its relentless pursuit of to legalize 11-20 million illegal aliens who, down the road when they’ve achieved citizenship, the vast majority of them will vote Dem… and the NYT knows it.
What the NYT position would be if there were 11-20 million “undocumented immigrants” in the US, who were white and highly conservative Europeans? In this scenario, the NYT would publish editorial after editorial criticizing the government for not enforcing current immigration laws. And they would not ‘champion’ this group… in my opinion.
We can expect more sob stories designed to touch the heart, about this person or that family. More stories about some girl in high-school who just wants her ‘Dream’. And more stories of how all these people are “entrepreneurs” and job creators (what a complete willful fallacy).
What we won’t see are the stories of: Latino school drop-out rates. Or the proliferation of Latino gangs in many major cities. Or crime rates in haven neighborhoods and the effects upon law abiding residents. Or an investigation of the sophisticated network that provides illegal aliens with false documents, etc. Or enclaves where English isn’t spoken and is resented and all signs are in Spanish (see parts of Miami). Or how their ‘anchor babies’ are born in hospitals for free, and how that provides them with food-stamps, WIC, free healthcare, free education (usually bilingual) free school lunches for the anchor baby.
March 25, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Michael James Cobb Reston, VA

If you are correct ans reunited families are good for the economy, shouldn’t we be reuniting the families in question in their home countries?
March 25, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.

SUB new york

Our citizens want to curtail immigration and globalization, for obvious reasons – our living standards have gone down. How on earth it is not obvious to policy makers! There is something called temporary visas program to get people as and when needed.
March 25, 2013 at 8:24 a.m

EdnaTN Tennessee

The author of this piece doesn’t know that the parents of immigrants can apply for Social Security almost immediately when they get to this country. A relative of mine married a woman from the Philippines and both received Social Security although they never worked here. Many wanted to change this in 1986 but it was defeated. Also, those sponsoring immigrant family members must document they will support family members but there is no penalty if they don’t after the arrival.
March 25, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.

Hepcat Morristown, NJ

No one seriously contests preferences for parents and children, the issue is sibling preference. The editorial never addresses the argument that sibling preferences crowd out would-be legal immigrants from all over the world that could contribute to much to our nation.
March 25, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.

Concerned Citizen Boston

Thank you, Editorial Board. Family unification must be a cornerstone for immigration reform. The reasons are simple: we as human beings need strong family ties to be happy. And strong families make for strong, productive societies.
In the United States, the importance of having family members close by, for our happiness and for our mental health and stability, is often underrated. But extended families can support our children, buffer our stress, give comfort, as well as enjoy fun and good times.
Many of today’s recent immigrants are bringing back to this country the emphasis on strong family ties, on which previous immigrant generations relied. We all would do well to rediscover our own roots’ traditions in this regard.
March 25, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.

D Flinchum Blacksburg, VA

Family reunification is the largest source of legal immigration to the United States. It should be limited to spouses and minor children only for several reasons.
First, many immigrants bring in aged parents, at first promising to support them, and then later renege on their promises and place their aged parents, who never worked a day in the United States, on many now underfunded social services that we are having to cut. Do we really need this expense?
Second, bringing in a sibling or adult child sets off chain migration, beginning with the sponsored immigrant’s immediate family. The spouse can eventually bring in parents and siblings, thus lengthening the chain. Do we really need more people?
Some relatives may have been brought in to work in small family businesses. They may be dependent upon the good will of their sponsors, so it is unlikely that they will complain about hours, wages and working conditions. How does this help put US workers back to work?
Finally, by family reunification we are allowing people who have been in the United States for a relatively short amount of time and who may hold citizenship in their country of origin as well as the United States to have more say about whom we allow into this country than people whose ancestors fought and died in our wars, survived our tough economic times, built the United States into the world power that it is today, paid taxes for generations, and who owe allegiance to the United States alone. Is this wise?
March 25, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.

Porky Rottenham USA

First, the US doesn’t need any immigrants at all. We have robots now. Second, the US is the last place I would bring a family. The US has the highest divorce rate in the world. The author of this article needs a reality check.
March 25, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.

mcgrathkateVienna, Austria

Family immigration reform should also be applied to same sex couples, many of whom face the same issues as their heterosexual counterparts. Seems that anyone who supports the “family values” concept would have a hard time arguing with that.
March 25, 2013 at 8:22 a.m.

Steve Sailer America

If family reunification is so important, they can go home.
March 25, 2013 at 8:21 a.m.

jbblitzerLA

Family reunification policies admit many people over 65 years of age, some with known expensive medical conditions, for which they immigrate to the USA for treatment which is paid for by Medicare or Medicaid.
While this policy may be kind, especially to residents of countries which were our former colonies, it is an expensive luxury we may no longer be able to afford.
Although the rules require sponsors to certify that the immigrant will not become a public charge, in my experience this rule is honored only in the breach.
For US citizens who pay taxes to support Medicare and Medicaid, the admission of people who never worked in this country at all, for the express purpose of consuming social welfare programs, is a breach of the social contract.
We may, as a country, ultimately decide that this is the right thing to do, but to view family reunification solely as a way of bringing in young, qualified people to support the efforts of those already working here, is to miss another important aspect of these policies.
March 25, 2013 at 8:21 a.m.

Al boston

“…powerful truth that family immigration is an economic bulwark,” asserts the author of this piece. Not a single reference to evidence to back it up.
That assertion could be true, when the cost of soc services wasn’t as high as it is now. Family immigration means an influx of non-English speaking elderly, who won’t work and contribute but will use free healthcare and senior services.
The 11 mln of illegals getting green cards and a right of unification means 22 mln of their parents draining our resources, scarce as they’ve become.
If we can design a bill stipulating that only the young, healthy, and ready for hard work can reunite, then your “powerful truth” may be close to be true.
As for Silicon Valley engineers and entrepreneurs, they are doing just fine and don’t need poorly educated immigrants. They do, however, need highly trained world-class computer scientists with low power/desire to negotiate their salary. Those are indeed “an economic bulwark.”
Our country’s might both economic and cultural was built on intense exploitation. “Henry Ford created America,” someone once said. If we want to preserve our might, we need to keep the exploitation running.
Ever faster, as other countries are catching up.
March 25, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.

www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/opinion/time-to-strengthen-family-immigration.html

Obama demands Congress ‘finish the job’ on immigration reform

LucaBrasi
1:27 AM EDT
Another non-issue for Americans. But very popular with the increasing Latino vote. So I guess that explains why doesn’t Obama do something really useful to the middle-class, like plowing some of that war money into public schools. God knows that American literacy rates are dropping like a rock.

terryjpratt
1:14 AM EDT
why does barack husein obamaroid hate America so??
Is it a black thing or a muslim thing. Word, peace out

RamonFHerrera
12:54 AM EDT
This is in the first page. Has been up close to 24 hours and has produced LESS than 200 comments. Articles in CNN have same low results.
That is real, real BAD news for the anti-immigrant (*) crowd.(*) Anti-immigrant, anti-Latinos, Xenophobes, Nativists, whatever they call themselves these days: Same thing.

rich15
3/25/2013 11:08 PM EDT
We’ve been demanding that Obama show leadership and work with the Congrress to fix our economy. That hasn’t gone anywhere either.

tpaxton27
3/25/2013 10:39 PM EDT
The real advantage to immigration is that it makes our restaurants much better.

KmaMedPR
3/25/2013 11:19 PM EDT
Tell that to the families of the over 25,000 Americans killed/murder by an illegal alien. There is a very high price we pay for the cheap labor working in restaurants, on farms, in construction aside from the human cost. We are taxed trillions of dollars a year for services provided to people who have no right to be here.

RamonFHerrera
12:47 AM EDT
@KmaMedPR: “the families of the over 25,000 Americans killed/murder by an illegal alien. ”
Really? The families that exist in your imagination? Killed by the murderers that live under your bed?
How come you cannot cite ONE US company (out of 29+ million) which is on your side, on immigration?? Not ONE church, either?
Answer: Because your side is mostly filled with hatred. Fortunately, the American people are unto you.

RamonFHerrera
12:50 AM EDT
@KmaMedPR: “We are taxed trillions of dollars a year”
That is a lie: You people in Puerto Rico pay no taxes. You are a colony and the US taxpayer supports you.

wigglwagon
3/25/2013 9:39 PM EDT
Why does Obama insist on keeping illegal aliens employed and American citizens unemployed?

World5
3/25/2013 10:51 PM EDT
Keep with that thought, it wins elections…..

bstone1931
3/25/2013 8:54 PM EDT
Obama is not really in a position to demand anything, we have three branches of government, the legislative branch in the house and senate who passes the bills, we have the executive branch who executes the bills, and the judicial branch who determines the legality of the bills…….Obama can veto a bill but it can be overridden by congress, so it is just posturing to say he “demands” something of congress…..this is the liberal spin put on it by all the liberal press to really make him sound good, but we all know it is just political posturing on his part……..

ketal
3/25/2013 8:58 PM EDT
Thank your for that education.
WOULD THE GOP CONGRESS JUST DO — SOMETHING!!!!
Exactly what has Boehner done over the last 4 years to earn ~$1million?
NOTHING.

bstone1931
3/25/2013 9:03 PM EDT
There are apparently 53% of us supporting the 47% who don’t pay taxes and a large majority of those are on welfare, try getting some of your facts straight…….

ketal
3/25/2013 9:07 PM EDT
Well genius — if you had done any research on Romney “47%” comment, you’d know it was a lie.
It’s actually about 18%
And if you recall your history — you’ll remember that Reagan was the one who signed the Earned Income Tax Credit — lowering or eliminating federal income taxes for the working poor.
Because there was a time when the GOP didn’t rage against the poor and actually understood that a healthy growing middle class was good for all of America
And you’d also know — if you did any research — that the greatest % per capita of entitlement $$$$ goest to Southern RED states — along with the fact that DONOR STATES end up propping up the Southern RED states because those states are TAKER STATES.
BUT HEY — you keep listening to Breitbart and Faux News
Did you get the memo that those who listen to Fox News are actually less educated.
THINK!!!

ketal
3/25/2013 9:09 PM EDT
And buddy — we pay more in taxes than you probably make in a year.
But we don’t stash our $$$ in off shore accounts. We ACTUALLY pay our taxes because we love this country — and hey — they’re like membership dues.
And we’ve traveled extensively so we KNOW that we get a lot for them.
ketal

3/25/2013 8:37 PM EDT
I’m very angry.
I love this country and I love our democracy — flaws and all.
And watching the GOP DECIMATE IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN — and we keep having to clean up YOUR MESSES over and over and over again!
WE’RE DIGGING OUT — in SPITE of the GOP OBSTRUCTIONISM.
Today’s GOP is yesteryear’s BROWN PARTY.
What if the Germans had been angry with the Brown Party’s lunacy?
Well – we can’t back down anymore.
We have to fight the lunacy of the GOP.
They’re dangerous to our democracy and to all the ideals that our founders fought in the Revolutionary War.
It’s not the Tea Party — it’s the TEA COMPANY!

Robert Anderson
3/25/2013 8:42 PM EDT
who is we? who do yo think pays for yor food stamps and the roof over yor head?…Repblicans create the wealth…Democrats redistribtute it…you need us, WE DONT NEED YOU

two4three2
3/25/2013 8:45 PM EDT
If you love this country, ketal, then why are you pushing amnesty? If you loved this country, you should know that charity starts at home. We have millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed American citizens—and they come first and foremost. We owe illegal aliens nothing.
BTW, you invoked Godwin’s Law. You lose.

ketal
3/25/2013 8:48 PM EDT
Who gives a crap about Godwin’s law when it’s true.
Look at the GOP’s behave — theocratic dogma through and through
If YOU really cared about the underemployed and the unemployed — YOUR party would PASS THE JOBS BILL.
Go on — write your representatives.
Then write the companies that are FLEECING AMERICA!
Boeing: receiving a refund despite $21.5 billion in profits, while the company ranked high in job cutting, underfunded pensions, and contractor misconduct.
Exxon — who paid less than 1% in U.S. taxes, and yet received oil subsidies along with their tax breaks. Unabashedly reports a 2012 “theoretical tax” of over $27 billion, almost 90% of its total income tax expense. The company was also near the top in contractor misconduct.
And the GOP Congress VETOED ending the tax subsidies to the oil industry late last year
Verizon w/$48BILLION IN PROFITS
Kraft Foods –with $13.5 BILLION IN PROFITS
DOW Chemical – with $10 BILLION IN PROFITS
ALL — got TAX REFUNDS?

ketal
3/25/2013 8:51 PM EDT
Dude — how typical GOP — ‘republicans create the wealth”
Really
Is that what we had 4 years ago — wealth?
If you look over the last 50 years
Under a Democratic president
- our GDP IS BETTER
- statistically more jobs are created
and the DOW DOES BETTER.
What you rubes are good at ARE TAKING WEALTH OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
Hey –
How about we bring back Glass Steagall?
How about we tax corporate raiders, hedge funds and day traders on income?
Would the GOP go for it?
NOPE>
If you’re not in the top 2% of the richest — why in the world do you keep barking for your OWNERS.

ketal
3/25/2013 8:51 PM EDT
Dude — how typical GOP — ‘republicans create the wealth”
Really
Is that what we had 4 years ago — wealth?
If you look over the last 50 years
Under a Democratic president
- our GDP IS BETTER
- statistically more jobs are created
and the DOW DOES BETTER.
What you rubes are good at ARE TAKING WEALTH OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
Hey –
How about we bring back Glass Steagall?
How about we tax corporate raiders, hedge funds and day traders on income?
Would the GOP go for it?
NOPE>
If you’re not in the top 2% of the richest — why in the world do you keep barking for your OWNERS.

KmaMedPR
3/25/2013 11:24 PM EDT
You obviously are not aware of the well-known fact that those who have no facts to back their argument resort to name calling. Hitler and Mussolini both incorporated this tactic. It worked then; it does not work now.
Anyone who opposes the invasion of 20+million illegal aliens (82% from Mexico) is a patriot, not a racist. The majority of Americans of Hispanic descent are more opposed to illegal aliens/amnesty than those who are not of Hispanic descent.

tlw8245
3/25/2013 8:22 PM EDT
Look, we don’t need to alienate the immigrants that risked their lives to come to a country that doesn’t even want them. How can we sit on our high horses and say that these people don’t belong in the US when, if they went back to Mexico, we would be rushing to the stores and fighting one another over the last tomato. If you want all of our food to come from overseas and eliminate the farmers completely, be my guest. The problem is not that what the illegal immigrants are doing, the problem is we as a country make it so difficult for them to become a citizen and we take advantage of their unfortunate situation.

papagrump
3/25/2013 8:21 PM EDT
There is no need for immigration reform. We have a process for immigrants to go through to become citizens. Millions of criminals have ignored our laws and entered illegally. Do lawbreakers truly deserve a “reform” that will undo their willful wrongdoing? Pity the poor souls in the right line to America and to hell with the people who refuse to follow our laws.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-demands-congress-finish-the-job-on-immigration-reform/2013/03/25/85a6a24c-955c-11e2-b6f0-a5150a247b6a_story.html



About Jerry Frey

Born 1953. Vietnam Veteran. Graduated Ohio State 1980. Have 5 published books. In the Woods Before Dawn; Grandpa's Gone; Longstreet's Assault; Pioneer of Salvation; Three Quarter Cadillac
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