Ferguson Shooting Photographs and Video

Ordinary: Michael, right, liked to spend his time playing computer games like most teens and sneak the odd Bud-Light with his friends. He had no adult criminal record and his mother was hard on him to do well


Peaceful protesters: People stand in front of Ferguson Market & Liquor convenience store to protect it from looters


…former Harvard professor Cornel West tore into Obama and Sharpton for sanitizing King’s vision of economic and racial equality. “Brother Martin himself, I think, would’ve been turning over in his grave,” West told an interviewer at the time, adding: “We saw the coronation of the bona fide house negro of the Barack Obama plantation, our dear brother Al Sharpton.”


Pat Midwest US 2 minutes ago

My relevant background: I’m a firearms expert and a pretty good marksman with a pistol. Not the best, but when I’m out at the target range, I’m almost always the best shooter there.

My Observations:

1. A lot of police officers I have shot with at the range are not very good shots with a pistol. I have been on the range during police qualifying and have seen officers have trouble hitting the targets to pass their requalifying tests (these were not rookies!). Most police officers don’t visit the range enough.
2. If Brown’s right hand was down, an average shooter pulling their gun up will typically shoot low on the first shot(s) and the subsequent shots would be higher. Also the typical “walk up” pattern that you see from rapid firing.
3. Another point is that police are taught generally to shoot center of mass, not at the head. The head is much harder to hit. In my experience, shooting at a 9 inch target at 35 feet most avg shooters don’t do very well.
4. Did he have his hands up? Look at the diagram, then raise your hands (either straight up, or in an L-shape). Pretty hard for me to see that as a likely shot pattern in six rapid fire shots. More likely the arm was down and the officer pulled his shots to the left while aiming for center of mass, hitting the right arm as the shots climbed higher.

Lots of info has not been released. Just wanted to point out that this autopsy diagram does not “confirm” that his arms were up in a surrender gesture.


A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer


Ferguson’s Other Race Problem: Riots Damaged Asian-Owned Stores

Asian-American-owned businesses in the St. Louis suburb are a mess after days of looting in the wake of Michael Brown’s killing. And one lawyer says the authorities let it happen.

It happened during the L.A. riots, when anger over the police beating of Rodney King spilled into Koreatown. It happened fictionally in Spike Lee’s Do the Right Thing, when an Asian-American business owner was forced to defend his store from rioters.

And it’s happening again in Ferguson: Looted Asian-American businesses have become collateral damage.

Asian-Americans own a number of the stores lining West Florissant Avenue, where more than 20 businesses have suffered damage in the wake of Michael Brown’s killing. At least five of these stores are Asian-American-owned, according to local sources and business records. Just 0.5 percent of Ferguson is of Asian descent, according to 2010 U.S. Census data.

The Ferguson Market, where the teenage Brown allegedly grabbed a handful of cigars before his deadly encounter with police, is owned by the Patels, an Asian-American family. Looters have targeted the store twice. On the same block, Northland Chop Suey, a Chinese restaurant, has been looted at least two times. A second market, a beauty shop, and a cellphone store within walking distance also have been damaged; all are owned by Asian-Americans.

Jay Kanzler, the Patels’ lawyer, told The Daily Beast he believed that law enforcement authorities allowed the looting of Ferguson Market on Friday in part because it is a minority-owned small business.

“One could [ask] that if this had been a Walmart, a Starbucks…would they have done more to make sure this didn’t happen?…I believe that absolutely factored into the equation,” said Kanzler, who said 80 percent of his clients are first-generation small-business owners. “Their rights may have been placed on a lower priority for the people in charge of protecting them.”

Local Asian-American business owners, however, say they don’t think looters targeted them because of their race. Even as the protests continue, many of the owners are already back in their stores, rebuilding and serving Ferguson residents.

“[Looters] came in here two times, Sunday night and Friday night,” Chinese restaurant owner Boon Jang told The Daily Beast, before adding: “I’ve got to go, I have a customer here.”

In times of racial tension, Asian-Americans have tended to be left out of the conversation between white and black America, reflecting the prevailing sense during more peaceful times that they don’t quite belong in either camp.

That’s the result of “the role of Asians when it comes to race tensions between white and black,” said Johnny Wang, president of the Asian American Chamber of Commerce of St. Louis. “The common complaint is that we just stay on the sidelines and don’t say anything.”

A precursor to the 1992 L.A. riots was the 1991 killing of teenager Latasha Harlins, an African-American teenager shot by a Korean-American storekeeper who thought she was trying to steal juice. The incident left lingering bitterness among some in the local African-American community that contributed in part to the Koreatown violence a year later.

There is no similar tension in Ferguson, locals say—in fact, some 40 residents of the suburb formed a picket line at Ferguson Market last Friday in an unsuccessful attempt to protect it from looting, and many have offered to help clean up in the aftermath of the violence.

“We support this community and this community supports us,” said Priyanka Patel, daughter of the Ferguson Market owners. “We love Ferguson and are proud to be business members of this community.”

On Wednesday morning, local Asian-American civic and business leaders released a statement urging unity in the aftermath of Brown’s death and calm after nights of violence.

“It is so sad and disheartening to see this level of violence expressed toward the business owners, who have always supported this community in good times and bad,” said Anil Gopal, president of the St. Louis Indian Business Association. “Many minority businesses located here and helped revitalize this community. We hope and pray that the violent actions of a few outsiders do not erode any progress Ferguson and its people have been experiencing.”

Among Asian-American business owners in Ferguson, and other business owners in the St. Louis suburb, there is a deep concern over whether insurance will cover the damages from the looting. Many insurance contracts expressly consider civil unrest a reason not to pay out policies.

“It’s a fear over whether the insurance cover the damage, and repeated damage,” said Kathleen Osborn, executive director of the St. Louis Regional Business Council, referring to the small businesses in Ferguson her group is trying to assist. “Some of them are so small they don’t have the expertise to fill out the insurance forms.”

Added Kanzler, who represents the Patels and another minority-owned small business that was looted, “Oftentimes, small-business policies contain that clause…it should be a concern.”

For the time being, Asian-American business owners are determined to get back on their feet, to continue providing services in Ferguson—unless the unrest worsens and they feel targeted.

“Hopefully it doesn’t devolve into what happened in the L.A. riots,” Wang said. “Because if that happens, we’re all getting out of Dodge.”


The Coming Race War Won’t Be About Race

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar @kaj33
7:52 PM ET

Ferguson is not just about systemic racism—it’s about class warfare, and how America’s poor are held back

Will the recent rioting in Ferguson, Missouri, be a tipping point in the struggle against racial injustice, or will it be a minor footnote in some future grad student’s thesis on Civil Unrest in the Early Twenty-First Century?

You probably have heard of the Kent State shootings: on May 4, 1970, the Ohio National Guard opened fire on student protesters at Kent State University. During those 13 seconds of gunfire, four students were killed and nine were wounded, one of whom was permanently paralyzed. The shock and outcry resulted in a nationwide strike of 4 million students that closed more than 450 campuses. Five days after the shooting, 100,000 protestors gathered in Washington, D.C. And the nation’s youth was energetically mobilized to end the Vietnam War, racism, sexism, and mindless faith in the political establishment.

You probably haven’t heard of the Jackson State shootings.

On May 14th, 10 days after Kent State ignited the nation, at the predominantly black Jackson State University in Mississippi, police killed two black students (one a high school senior, the other the father of an 18-month-old baby) with shotguns and wounded twelve others.

There was no national outcry. The nation was not mobilized to do anything. That heartless leviathan we call History swallowed that event whole, erasing it from the national memory.

And, unless we want the Ferguson atrocity to also be swallowed and become nothing more than an intestinal irritant to history, we have to address the situation not just as another act of systemic racism, but as what else it is: class warfare.

By focusing on just the racial aspect, the discussion becomes about whether Michael Brown’s death—or that of the other three unarmed black men who were killed by police in the U.S. within that month—is about discrimination or about police justification. Then we’ll argue about whether there isn’t just as much black-against-white racism in the U.S. as there is white-against-black. (Yes, there is. But, in general, white-against-black economically impacts the future of the black community. Black-against-white has almost no measurable social impact.)

Then we’ll start debating whether or not the police in America are themselves an endangered minority who are also discriminated against based on their color—blue. (Yes, they are. There are many factors to consider before condemning police, including political pressures, inadequate training, and arcane policies.) Then we’ll question whether blacks are more often shot because they more often commit crimes. (In fact, studies show that blacks are targeted more often in some cities, like New York City. It’s difficult to get a bigger national picture because studies are woefully inadequate. The Department of Justice study shows that in the U.S. between 2003 and 2009, among arrest-related deaths there’s very little difference among blacks, whites, or Latinos. However, the study doesn’t tell us how many were unarmed.)

This fist-shaking of everyone’s racial agenda distracts America from the larger issue that the targets of police overreaction are based less on skin color and more on an even worse Ebola-level affliction: being poor. Of course, to many in America, being a person of color is synonymous with being poor, and being poor is synonymous with being a criminal. Ironically, this misperception is true even among the poor.

And that’s how the status quo wants it.

The U.S. Census Report finds that 50 million Americans are poor. Fifty million voters is a powerful block if they ever organized in an effort to pursue their common economic goals. So, it’s crucial that those in the wealthiest One Percent keep the poor fractured by distracting them with emotional issues like immigration, abortion and gun control so they never stop to wonder how they got so screwed over for so long.

One way to keep these 50 million fractured is through disinformation. PunditFact’s recent scorecard on network news concluded that at Fox and Fox News Channel, 60 percent of claims are false. At NBC and MSNBC, 46 percent of claims were deemed false. That’s the “news,” folks! During the Ferguson riots, Fox News ran a black and white photo of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., with the bold caption: “Forgetting MLK’s Message/Protestors in Missouri Turn to Violence.” Did they run such a caption when either Presidents Bush invaded Iraq: “Forgetting Jesus Christ’s Message/U.S. Forgets to Turn Cheek and Kills Thousands”?

How can viewers make reasonable choices in a democracy if their sources of information are corrupted? They can’t, which is exactly how the One Percent controls the fate of the Ninety-Nine Percent.

Worse, certain politicians and entrepreneurs conspire to keep the poor just as they are. On his HBO comedic news show Last Week Tonight, John Oliver ran an expose of the payday loan business and those who so callously exploit the desperation of the poor. How does an industry that extorts up to 1,900 percent interest on loans get away with it? In Texas, State Rep. Gary Elkins blocked a regulatory bill, despite the fact that he owns a chain of payday loan stores. And the politician who kept badgering Elkins about his conflict of interest, Rep. Vicki Truitt, became a lobbyist for ACE Cash Express just 17 days after leaving office. In essence, Oliver showed how the poor are lured into such a loan, only to be unable to pay it back and having to secure yet another loan. The cycle shall be unbroken.

Dystopian books and movies like Snowpiercer, The Giver, Divergent, Hunger Games, and Elysium have been the rage for the past few years. Not just because they express teen frustration at authority figures. That would explain some of the popularity among younger audiences, but not among twentysomethings and even older adults. The real reason we flock to see Donald Sutherland’s porcelain portrayal in Hunger Games of a cold, ruthless president of the U.S. dedicated to preserving the rich while grinding his heel into the necks of the poor is that it rings true in a society in which the One Percent gets richer while our middle class is collapsing.

That’s not hyperbole; statistics prove this to be true. According to a 2012 Pew Research Center report, just half of U.S. households are middle-income, a drop of 11 percent since the 1970s; median middle-class income has dropped by 5 percent in the last ten years, total wealth is down 28 percent. Fewer people (just 23 percent) think they will have enough money to retire. Most damning of all: fewer Americans than ever believe in the American Dream mantra that hard work will get them ahead.

Rather than uniting to face the real foe—do-nothing politicians, legislators, and others in power—we fall into the trap of turning against each other, expending our energy battling our allies instead of our enemies. This isn’t just inclusive of race and political parties, it’s also about gender. In her book Unspeakable Things: Sex, Lies and Revolution, Laurie Penny suggests that the decreased career opportunities for young men in society makes them feel less valuable to females; as a result they deflect their rage from those who caused the problem to those who also suffer the consequences: females.

Yes, I’m aware that it is unfair to paint the wealthiest with such broad strokes. There are a number of super-rich people who are also super-supportive of their community. Humbled by their own success, they reach out to help others. But that’s not the case with the multitude of millionaires and billionaires who lobby to reduce Food Stamps, give no relief to the burden of student debt on our young, and kill extensions of unemployment benefits.

With each of these shootings/chokehold deaths/stand-your-ground atrocities, police and the judicial system are seen as enforcers of an unjust status quo. Our anger rises, and riots demanding justice ensue. The news channels interview everyone and pundits assign blame.

Then what?

I’m not saying the protests in Ferguson aren’t justified—they are. In fact, we need more protests across the country. Where’s our Kent State? What will it take to mobilize 4 million students in peaceful protest? Because that’s what it will take to evoke actual change. The middle class has to join the poor and whites have to join African-Americans in mass demonstrations, in ousting corrupt politicians, in boycotting exploitative businesses, in passing legislation that promotes economic equality and opportunity, and in punishing those who gamble with our financial future.

Otherwise, all we’re going to get is what we got out of Ferguson: a bunch of politicians and celebrities expressing sympathy and outrage. If we don’t have a specific agenda—a list of exactly what we want to change and how—we will be gathering over and over again beside the dead bodies of our murdered children, parents, and neighbors.

I hope John Steinbeck is proven right when he wrote in Grapes of Wrath, “Repression works only to strengthen and knit the oppressed.” But I’m more inclined to echo Marvin Gaye’s “Inner City Blues,” written the year after the Kent State/Jackson State shootings:

Inflation no chance
To increase finance
Bills pile up sky high
Send that boy off to die
Make me wanna holler
The way they do my life
Make me wanna holler
The way they do my

JimWolfson 12 minutes ago

Hey Lew Alcindor, ditch the pretentious, phony Arab name and think about this: why weren’t stores which sell work boots and books looted?
Start there, and you’re on your way to figuring out the real problems with black “culture”. It needs fixing, desperately, and the example for how to fix it has been right in front of your nose for many decades. Focus on education, manners and stable families instead of braindead misogynist “music”, everyday conversation immersed in foul language, basketball and making sure you don’t “act white” by getting educated and improving yourself.
Teach your kids about Ben Carson, Walter Williams and Tom Sowell instead of Je$$e Jack$on, Al $harpton and NBA clowns.
The world has little patience for idiots, so stop making them.

mrdarklight 29 minutes ago

Blah blah blah… another stock leftist diatribe, as disconnected from reality as all the other leftist diatribes. It assumes that the youth was innocent and had nothing to do with his death, with no evidence at all. Just the stock, unthinking socialist viewpoint, repeating what his friends tell him and making assumptions that have never been proven.
One wonders if all the poor are so held back, how he ever became successful. He made quite a bit of money himself. How could this happen if our society were so racist?
“The coming race war,” another leftist fantasy. They had better hope there is no race war, because they’re not in a position to win it.

dontbeleibdahype 36 minutes ago

In our great nation, there is a formula for success. It doesn’t matter the color of your skin. If you follow it, you will prosper. The liberal elite political class does not want everyone to know that, as they need to keep their voting block in tact. They sell a bill of goods to those who are gullible enough to believe them, and that is that they are “victims” of an oppressive society where the deck is stacked against them.
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t, you’re right.”
Henry Ford

DougDavis 37 minutes ago

The Great Society has been the biggest atrocity our nation has ever committed against its own people. It is a trap, those who run it have no intention of allowing those trapped in it to escape, they want to keep it going, and those who run and control the Great Society districts 100% and have had this complete control for the last 50 years, are of the same party and ideology. A party and ideology that thrives and exists based upon divide and conquer.
The only other party that has a chance to win caters way too strongly to major corporations at the expense of small businesses, businesses who choose to employ those of other nations or illegals rather than Americans. Their individualist ideology is much preferred to the collectivists who shun individual thought and each person defining their own views and beliefs, however they are simply the lesser of the two evils, they may not go as far as the Democrats do in holding people back so that they can own them like cattle, but that have played a role in lowering our standard of living, they may not have the hate that the Democrats have for the middle class, but they certainly don’t care to help us or address our real concerns.

Channah 10 minutes ago @DougDavis

Ever read Howard Zinn’s book on American History? From the very beginning, our country has been to support the rich and elite and keep the poor down. Even our Constitution was written for the rich man. The poor havegone on strike, revolted, etc., and nothing has changed.

imWolfson 6 minutes ago@Channah

Yeah, the poor parasites have gone on strike, revolted and etc. etc.
What they HAVEN’T done is worked hard to become educated, literate, mannered, cultured, useful and productive.
The few that have done these things got the hell out of the ghetto and are doing just fine.

ButchBlosc 41 minutes ago

In Obama’s America, the heroes are thugs, looters, arsonists, and race-baiters.

AnnetteSchultz44 minutes ago

I have a lot of difficulty with this article because it gives one the sense that it was in no way the actions of the deceased that had anything to do with his untimely death. First, it was not a “boy” that robbed the convenience store and roughed up the manager. This was a man over 6′ and looked to be easily 200+ lbs. Even if still in his late teen years, that is NOT a boy!
I have to agree with StoneSoupBKK’s comments below concerning blacks. They are far more volatile, far more swift to thuggery, far more prone to crime as seen by the sheer numbers behind bars. The cultural breakdown in the homes for the black community is one of the major factors here. This easily leads to school drop out, insolent behavior, and a number of other simply wrong paths for these boys to take. Rarely do you hear of this same kind of thing coming out of other cultures within the US. particularly the Orientals; and if that makes me a racist — Oh well!

Joninwm 51 minutes ago

What is holding the poor back is mostly their laziness and unwillingness to take responsibility for their own lives. When people are poor, they don’t realize that by having more and more kids that they are just digging a deeper hole for themselves and their family. Many are now into 4th and 5th generations of welfare recipients, not because they are forced to take welfare, but because they view it as free money without working for it. When you continually take the free money from welfare you are ensuring that you will remain poor, unless you are willing to actually work your way out of it.

toneSoupBKK 56 minutes ago

Kareem – That is well-written, with some merit. Here is the problem: all the ills that you discuss are but a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the ongoing and continuous wholesale slaughter of black men by other black men in America. The fatherless thug culture that has become the default norm for urban black children is an evil that dwarfs anything that comes out of the white or blue environments.
It is NEVER whites, or Hispanics, or Asians, or Muslims, or Christians, or motorcycle gangs, or crazed veterans clubs that run riot over sections of cities – it is ALWAYS blacks. It is clearly obvious to any casual observer that across America, in most if not all cities, there is a sizable population of black hoodlums just WAITING for some half-ass excuse to kick off a riotous looting rampage – so they can score some booze, cigarettes, flat panel displays, and assorted other plunder. And – they will happily pillage a black-owned business. And – it is isn’t just about economic deprivation. There are large urban environments full of poor Hispanic families – but they don’t go out and prey on their own neighborhood businesses. Only black thugs do this en mass.
They do this out of greed, out of a sense of thwarted entitlement – but mostly because they are effectively “feral” children grown to manhood – based on an ethnic culture where black men impregnate black women “for sport” – and then abandon them to be raised by weak mothers – but mostly by each other.
If any “class war” breaks out, it will just be spillover from the existing “black on black” slaughter that is endemic to many urban communities across America.
OK – it is easy to criticize – right? Mr. Stone Soup – suggest a solution. OK. A handful of black athlete role models – from the NBA, the NFL and the WBA should grab a camera crew, and fly to Myanmar – and go visit the remains of the Ledo Road through Burma. Bring with you a few octogenarian survivors of the black combat engineer battalions that built the Ledo Road under General Joseph Stillwell – and film them talking about what it was like to put a bridge across a jungle river in 1943. Bring along a group of tough urban black gang leaders. Then go ahead and have the gang leaders – assisted by the black multi-millionaires -put up a bridge across a small stream, supervised by the black WWII engineer vets. Then – have the gang leaders share their thoughts about what their grandfathers accomplished – back during a time when the whole United States was pulling together, and nobody thought they were entitled to anything that they didn’t earn the hard way.
It would make a good reality show.

Burnet1187 1 hour ago

I find it interesting that a millionaire who so despised our culture that he changed his name to a muslim name, now lectures us about a race war and rants against the 1% of which he belongs. I don’t see him distributing his cash to his brothers and sisters. If he really wanted to solve the disparity between his blacks and the rest of us, he would advise them to get off the democrat plantation, stop accepting handouts from the government, and get working. Work is the last thing on these animals’ minds. Just to suck off the government teat and riot and loot at the first opportunity. Race war? Bring it. We outnumber and outgun you, and we are tired of your mooching, rioting and looting.

MARIEE 1 hour ago

Don’t worry, the illegals are coming to your rescue! They will be in your community soon to help with all those jobs you guys can’t fill. Obama wants all you all to work, and them too…word!!!! Your kids can share their food stamps, welfare and schools with them..there is plenty to go around, thanks obama!

RWFG 1 hour ago

Please note:

93% of Black males are murdered by other Black males
89% of all “Knock-Out Game” victims are white, and 23% of them are women.
No measurable social impact? Are you kicking back on Grandpa’s old cough medicine with such a ridiculous assertion?
This is mob behavior by criminal thugs with no upbringing; nothing short.

RWFG 1 hour ago

You play basketball. A geopolitical, economic, and policy master you are not. In fact, this entire article was an insult to any one human with a shred of intelligence.
Michael Brown robbed a store, and beat up a lady in the process. Following his double felony, Brown went walking in the middle of the street and became agressive with the officer who told him to move onto the sidewalk. Then he has a confrontation with the officer, runs away, and the officer draws. This enrages Brown, so he rushes the officer. Unfortunately, due to Brown’s OWN ACTIONS, the officer had to defend himself.
It is understood by everyone with just a tablespoon of common sense; unarmed does not mean non-violent. Everyone but you, Mr. Jabbar.

bbsnews 14 minutes ago@RWFG

I understood him just fine but then I am not a racist punk dumbazz…

schoenianj 1 hour ago

He should have stuck to BB or banging chicks! All the items he states that the 1% (which he is one of) uses to keep poor/minority/victims so busy that they don’t think about the real issues is exactly the tactics his hero Obozo employs!

JimWolfson 1 hour ago

Hey Lew Alcindor, how about this instead: teach your kids to value literacy, math skills, proper English, marriage, family, fidelity and respect for education and civilized behavior over $300 tennis shoes. Progress would be guaranteed, absolutely.
Oh, and tell them to stop voting in democRat lockstep and by skin color and to not adopt ridiculous, pretentious, fake Arab names. Make sure they know that “leaders” like Jack$on and $harpton are simply crooked, race-hustling extortionists.
Be American; it’s worth it. It’s better.

CarlBall 1 hour ago

well for the last 50 years you vote lock step as a majority for democrats. so after all that time what makes you think they give a crap about your community? your community is poorer now than before welfare and affirimitive action’ your people are nothing more than a voting bloc that is brought out every election cycle and returned to what ever projects they came from and forgotten.your family structure has turned millions of families into fatherless homes. welfare was started for one reason to keep blacks in their place. that’s why johnson signed it into law to stop what you described and after all that time and trillions of dollars your community is worse off now than pre 60′s!

twoiron 1 hour ago@CarlBall

Keeping the poor urban blacks on the Liberal Plantation has been the unstated goal of the Liberal Left for at least 50 years. And, the black population is either too dumb, too lazy, or too dumb and lazy to figure it out. 95% for Obama in 2012! That is “stuck on stupid” no matter the measure.

ConstitutionLo1 1 hour ago

Actually, LBJ did state the goal when he said he’d have them voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

twoiron 1 hour ago

When Kareem gives up his wealth, and Magic, and Michael Jordan, and Shaq, and Lebron, etc., etc., etc. I will believe this nonsense about ending poverty.
Until then, it is just yammering by hypocritical Leftists. No “movement.” No “war.” No “nuthin’.”

tonymaine2003 1 hour ago

How exactly are the poor “held back” Kareem? You seemed to do pretty well. The only ones holding them back are themselves. You know that any black person that tries to get an education, tries to get a good job, etc. is labeled “oreo” or “trying to act white”.

Juan_One 1 hour ago

Mr Jabbar,
Unfortunately, many blacks have an image problem that needs to be addressed. Blacks comprise approximately 14% of the US population yet, commit 52% of all Homicides and approximately 70% of all Black Babies are born out of wedlock. Playing the poverty, race card, or the Government throwing more tax money at problems plaguing Black and Poor Communities will NEVER WORK. Problems must be fixed from within by the people in the communities combined with, the Successful Ones (this means you Kareem) who have moved up and out, strong families, hard work, and or marketable education skills!
Evidence : Just look at the Asian Communities for endless American Dream success stories!
I live in a neighborhood that is over 90% Vietnamese immigrants (1st US gen). that is a newer middle class area. They came here knowing they could get ahead by working hard, by education, or both. Since none have degrees they all work Very Very Hard and ensure their children do well in school. They are successful, happy, healthy people, and FAMILIES, with some taking care of live-in parents not looking for Gov Handouts. Also, the Koreans and the Chinese.


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Born 1953. Vietnam Veteran. Graduated Ohio State 1980. Have 5 published books. In the Woods Before Dawn; Grandpa's Gone; Longstreet's Assault; Pioneer of Salvation; Three Quarter Cadillac
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